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So the question becomes why is there no example presently or through history of a truly libertarian society?

Maybe it's something to do with individual liberty not group liberty, perhaps. You know, 'negative' freedoms versus 'positive' freedoms.


I like this quote. Amongst other things, it puts greater value on what is good for society than what the individual wants.

Modern liberalism places the _wants_ of the individual first, even though a well-ordered society must place the _needs_ of society first--yes, even at the expense of individual desires. For instance, no one _wanted_ to get drafted, but it served America's (and, incidentally, the world's) _needs_ to draft men to fight WWII.

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