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Seems to me that innovation and risk taking has taken a dangerous back seat lately. And I don't mean just in the political arena.

I don't think critics of supply-side policies try to "refute the truism that 'people respond to incentives,'" they argue that tax cuts simply aren't the proper incentives. I believe they would say that targeted spending by Congress is more effective and fair. The assumption is that lower taxes will provide incentives only to buy larger jets, vacation houses and yachts. The results of this consumption then "trickle-down" to the hard-working American.

The more frightening point of view is that the "rich" should pay higher taxes regardless of the effect on growth. I believe Robert Reich alluded that would oppose any proposal where the wealthy would become wealthier even if the proposal made no one worse off (i.e. it was pareto efficient). The lose of potential wealth would not be worth the raise in inequality.

On a lighter note, your post reminded me of this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VVp8UGjECt4

I think tax cuts are fine if done right and for the right reason, but the problem I have with many supply-side proponents is this: If we take its reasoning to its logical conclusion, we could reduce tax rates to zero, and this would send economic growth and tax receipts skyrocketing.

This, of course, is absurd: You cannot collect taxes at all if tax rates are zero! At some point there must be a line of diminishing returns where tax cuts really do start to reduce revenue even though economic growth might skyrocket.

Furthermore, it is not just tax rates which cause or stifle economic growth. It is rather simplistic to say that such-and-such tax cuts caused an economic expansion when you don't know what would have happened sans those cuts. I read this in WSJ editorials all the time and it annoys me: I can't tell you how many times I've read the WSJ trumpet Bush's tax cuts as the cause of the current expansion. Oh, really? Do they assume the recession would have dragged on forever without them? That too, is absurd. The main impetus for the current expansion could very well have been the Fed's reduction of interest rates to practically nothing, in which case Bush's tax cuts would have been largely irrelevant. Or, the expansion could have occurred without either - which seems most likely to me, to be honest. Perhaps the expansion was driven by China's growth and the growth of the world economy in general, in which case anything the US government did had no effect at all.

If the recovery would have occurred without Bush's tax cuts and even without the Fed's encouragement, then what can we say about tax revenue? If we assume that economic growth would have been about the same without the cuts, it's fair to conclude we'd have more tax revenue because, after all, rates would have been higher with about the same amount of growth. One can argue that Bush's tax cuts made the economy grow faster than it would have without them, but I see little compelling evidence for this. The only truly "fast" growth we've had since 2001 was a few quarters in 2003 and 2004. That period could just as well have been spurred on by the Fed's low rates rather than Bush's tax cuts. Or, once again, it might have occurred without either. There have been plenty of periods of fast economic growth in US history without tax cuts to spur them on. This could have been one of them, even if Bush had not cut taxes.

Economic growth is a complex phenomenon with a variety of inputs. Placing too much emphasis on one particular input risks ignoring all the others, which supply-siders seem to do too often in their fixation on tax rates.

John:
I don't know of any "supply-sider" who has advocated 0% tax rates; similarly, I know of no "redistributor" who has advocated 100% tax rates. The effect on growth in either case would be irrelevant; the former would render the currency worthless, and the latter would cause an overthrow of the government.

Your post is a good example of why I prefer "growth-incentive" economics to "supply side." It's more difficult to set up a straw man. Sure would be nice to hear some Democrats' ideas about growth incentives, but so far the only ones talking about it are the Republicans. The Democrats seem to think the "Two-Americas" class warfare theme is more important than the JFK message that "growth floats all boats." Too bad.

"It merely says that tax rate cuts increase the private sector players’ incentives to work harder and innovate—i.e., to grow their own incomes, and thereby the whole economy. "

http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/nipaweb/TableView.asp#Mid

Gross domestic product
1994 4.0
1995 2.5
1996 3.7
1997 4.5
1998 4.2
1999 4.5
2000 3.7
2001 0.8
2002 1.6
2003 2.5
2004 3.9
2005 3.2
2006 3.3

So what were the tax incentives in the 90's and then after the millennium?

The theory and the data don't seem to correlate.

This would be like some one claiming CO2 is causing global warming while showing a graph with an inverse relationship between CO2 increases and temperature trends.

But of course with regards to global warming the data does fit the theory....so I wonder why so many believe what they do in spite of contrary data.

http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/graphics/lawdome.smooth20.gif

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/

Although tax rates are only one of many things that affect growth (such as monetary policy, business cycle, foreign trade, etc.), you need to be careful to isolate at least the business cycle effects from your time series. Here's an example that uses the first four years of three different business cycles, each one roughly timed with an environment of tax cuts or tax hikes. (We only have 4 years of data since the most recent trough, so 4 year periods are chosen for the other two.)


Real GDP growth in first 4 yrs of business cycle:

'83 thru '86,
after tax cuts:
1983 4.5%
1984 7.2%
1985 4.1%
1986 3.5%

'92 thru '95,
after tax hikes:
1992 3.3%
1993 2.7%
1994 4.0%
1995 2.5%

'03 thru '06,
after tax cuts:
2003 2.5%
2004 3.9%
2005 3.2%
2006 3.3%

Still imperfect, but at least it's not distorted by the business cycle.

The premise still stands: People respond to incentives—or, more specifically:
Taxpayers respond to changes in tax rates.

muirgeo isn't worth the time, Steve. Trust me on this one.

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