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Stephen Reed

Great post. I think the problem is that politicians like to simplify the problem beyond usefulness and play on people's ignorance of the real issues, invoking fear that only they have the solution for.

I have a proposed alternative to add to the discussion to help pay for some of the future liabilities that doesn't get much consideration.

Currently, $3.1 trillion of the $8.5 trillion U.S. government debt is intragovernmental. It is primarily bonds held in the Social Security Trust fund. These government bonds in the trust fund earn a fairly low interest rate, especially considering that the funds are being used primarily for people's retirement.

Why doesn't the government sell those bonds to the public and, with the proceeds, buy a set of well diversified stocks. International diversification is a plus. Something like the Vanguard total stock market index fund, plus some international fund as well. A low cost, minimal management portfolio of diversfied stocks.

Just to show how much of a difference it would make:

With $3.1 trillion in government bonds earning roughly 5% annual interest, we can expect, after a 30 year period, for the bonds to be worth $13.4 trillion. The stock market has historically returned approximately 10% annual returns. With a 10% annual return, we can expect the portfolio of $3.1 trillion stocks to grow to roughly $54.1 trillion dollars! That's a difference of $40.7 trillion dollars, or 300% more assets.

The common objection to this approach is, "what about the increased risk?" and "do we really want the government owning a significant amount of private assets?"

To the first objection, I think that the government would be able to handle the risk as long as the portfolio of stocks didn't become too large an amount. We could hire some of the best finance people in our country to tackle the problem of protecting the country from the riskiness of the market by having the proper mix of stocks and bonds and evaluating several "worst case" type scenarios. Finance theory is pretty well developed and I think it wouldn't be much of an issue to tackle the problem from that perspective. Every company that has defined benefit pension plans invests a significant amount of their retirement assets in the stock market. I don't see any reason why the government would not be able to have something similar for its retirement account.

Additionally, during a bear market, the U.S. government could always issue a greater than normal amount of debt to pay for current retiree benefits rather than selling off too great a portion of retirement assets. We can of course have the financial planners determine a maximum % of assets that can be sold from the portfolio to stay solvent in the future. Also, during bear markets, interest rates tend to be lower than the average, as the U.S. economy is slowing or in recession, typically prompting the FED to cut interest rates. During bull markets, the government could sell an additional amount of the stocks in the portfolio to pay off the additional debt it took on. On top of that, the government will typically be receiving a greater amount of tax recipts. The government could thus weather the ups and downs in the stock market much better than an individual person could. If the stock market crashes right when someone is about to retire, they wouldn't have much recourse. The government, however, will still have people contributing into the system during a recession, able to handle the flucuations much easier.

The other objection is about not wanting the government to control a significant portion of corporations. This indeed is somewhat of a concern. I think the problem is overblown, however, by fear of government. I think the system could be designed to not allow the governmet to excercise its influence in corporate affairs though the voting power it receives from its ownership stake. Perhaps we could let different groups in the private sector vote the proxies for the various companies, they would be compensated based on the returns of the group of companies they voted for. Each private financial group would be ranked amongst the other groups based on average returns over perhaps a 3-5 year period (which should be influenced by voting in a good board of directors and voting for the best interests of the shareholders for other proxy votes). The compensation would be significant for the companies to do their research and vote in the best manner possible. I'm sure a reasonable system could be worked out. Also, despite this negative, the potential benefits need to be taken into consideration. The amount of extra assets available for the retirement account is probably worth this negative in my opinion.

This could be just one possible solution to the looming entitlement burden. This, perhaps along with increasing the eligibility age for benefits by a few years, would be the best way to reduce the pain from the transition to the baby boomer retirement.

Of course, I wholely support growth friendly policies as the third leg to the problem.

Bret

Steve Conover wrote: "Those daydreams are ultrafantasies, aren’t they?"

Yes, they are.

The primary reason they are ultrafrantasies is that almost nobody understands enough about economic systems to be able to make daydreams 2 through 4 happen (daydream 1 is somewhat more plausible to me, though still a stretch).

The blessing and the curse of a democracy is that the elected officials tend to reflect the general population. The vast majority of the population can't calculate a percentage, doesn't have any idea what an exponential curve (for growth) is, can't possibly grasp the concept of debt-to-GDP ratios, etc. and it's unlikely that our elected officials are going to rise to the task of being able to explain it all to their constituents. It will not and cannot happen.

Fortunately, the Wisdom of the Crowds seems to have prevailed anyway. Steve wants debt to be 60% of GDP and lo and behold, it is! People like Steve versus people like the Concord Coalition have managed to push and pull us to an adequately optimal position on most economic issues. Amazing!!!

a Duoist

Federal law prohibits funding the Trust Funds with common stock. Laws can be changed, but I wouldn't hold my breath for this stricture to be lifted.

Further, and more importantly, WHY would any rational person believe that government is better able to get a higher return on taxpayers' monies than the individual taxpayers can themselves?

Either abolish Social Security, or privatize it. The only 'safety net' is the dependency attitude of those in government.

'Be free.'

'Be free.'

Bob

"....nobody is talking about how to enhance the economy’s growth. Why not? Because it upsets the political applecart, and places government bureaucrats way, way outside their comfort zone."
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Steve,

It also upsets the federal reserve. I keep harping on the same issue. Monetary policy, as measured by the yield curve, is too tight. While Bernanke has stated that inflation is the boogeyman I seriously doubt there isn't a target GDP growth rate in his head and 2-2.5% GDP growth is getting us nowhere.

Bob

"do we really want the government owning a significant amount of private assets?"
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A socialist would.

J

I like the idea of using the stockmarket to pay for future liabilities, yet I would be wary by so much government involvement. All I would do to the social security system is to price index benefits (perhaps after a slight boost to help placate AARP) and that system will be solvent. Instead of diverting current social security tax funding to private accounts, a better policy would be to create universal 401(k) accounts on top of the current system as I've seen outlined by Gene Sperling in 'The Pro-Growth Progressive'. These accounts could be matched generously at low levels of savings, providing increased incentives for people who are not in the habit of saving to begin doing so, and thereby increasing national savings. Yes, individuals would have to deal with volatility, and if they are scared into keeping their retirement savings in cash or bonds, for better or worse thats their decision. The benefit of having individuals invest is that the government would be too big of an investor. Any sizable change in its asset allocation would move markets substantially. Also, I wouldn't be convinved that the government could own a substantial portion of corporate America and be kept for exercising direct control (and limits on direct control of assets by owners would seem to undermine property rights). In all, having this system would allow people to receive ever rising retirement incomes as the economy grows (and give people a stake in a rising economy) and take pressure off of government finances, while leaving the social security benefit as a floor to guarantee some income security.

The major fiscal problem in the future will be Medicare. According to the Social Security and Medicare Trustee Reports for 2006, Medicare's unfunded liability is $70.5 trillion compared to social security's unfunded liability $13.4 trillion. I'm pretty sure if we switch to price indexing with social security, that unfunded liabiilty disappears (then we only have to grow the economy by the same rate as the growth of the elderly population to keep social security the same proportion of GDP it is today - it would be a tragedy in its own right if the economy's growth was too slow for that to happen). Ultimately, I don't believe we will ever see levels of debt that are excessive relative to GDP if we can reform Medicare so that cost growth is much closer to the rate of GDP growth.

The two most important economic policies will be to a) maintain a decent trend pace of economic growth with low inflation and b) reform Medicare. If we do that, I agree completely with Steve that occassional budget deficits of a a few percent GDP are of no concern - particularly if those deficits are funding security or important technological research as both in my view are very important to growth.

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